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Wilbar 4 september 2019 15:26

Het lijkt me dat die Stormy Daniels wel zo’n leuterkoek lust.

Al Kipone 4 september 2019 15:28

Hmmm :-)

(Reuters) - A North Carolina court on Tuesday struck down the Republican-drawn state legislative map as an illegal partisan gerrymander and gave lawmakers two weeks to enact new district lines for next year’s elections.

www.reuters.com/article/us-north-caro...

jecebe 4 september 2019 15:30

quote:
Wilbar schreef op 4 september 2019 15:26:
Het lijkt me dat die Stormy Daniels wel zo’n leuterkoek lust.

Haha, zeker wel, wie zou dat niet willen en ook nog uit een oude spijkerbroek van Trump

Al Kipone 4 september 2019 15:45

Interessante analyse:

Worst. Negotiator. Ever.

Trump lacks the impulse control to bargain in world politics

...
This leads us to the last and most important revelation about Trump’s negotiating strategy. Much as he castigated Obama for making announcements about deadlines and changes, Trump lacks the impulse control to keep his mouth shut on key bargains. And in repeatedly yapping his trap, Trump keeps sabotaging the U.S. bargaining position.

The best example of this over the past month has been Afghanistan. The administration has been negotiating with the Taliban for an orderly withdrawal of most U.S. troops. The problem for U.S. negotiators, however, is that Trump won’t shut up about what he wants.

Think I am exaggerating? Take a look at what Politico’s Wesley Morgan reported last month:

Trump has repeatedly made it known he wants to remove all U.S. troops from the 18-year-old Afghan conflict, a topic he returned to Friday afternoon as his advisers briefed him on the status of peace talks with the Taliban.

But his public statements and leaks of his closed-door demands have weakened the hand of his negotiators by making it clear just how desperately the president wants a deal, according to multiple current and former U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the deliberations. ...

For example, just weeks after Trump named Khalilzad as his top envoy to the talks in December, Trump blindsided his advisers with instructions to pull half of the American troops out immediately — an order he was then talked out of giving.

“You appoint someone to be your primary negotiator who’s empowered to carry out these meetings, and then six weeks later you tell everyone you’re handing your adversary half of what they want for nothing?” asked a former defense official who was working on Afghanistan issues at the time.

“The timing couldn’t have been worse. It was severely damaging,” agreed a current military official with recent experience in Kabul. “We’ve probably gone double the rounds [of negotiations] because the Taliban were like, ‘Hey, you’re leaving anyway. Why should we negotiate?’ ”

www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/0...

jecebe 4 september 2019 15:49

quote:
Al Kipone schreef op 4 september 2019 15:45:
Interessante analyse:

Worst. Negotiator. Ever.

Trump lacks the impulse control to bargain in world politics

Tja, die Trump dat is me er eentje

rationeel 4 september 2019 16:44

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izdp schreef op 4 september 2019 14:14:
Dat zie je toch verkeerd: ik verzet me immers tegen de populisten.

Frame eerst, en breng vervolgens de democratie om zeep.

luchtschip 4 september 2019 17:51

quote:
rationeel schreef op 4 september 2019 16:44:
[...]

Frame eerst, en breng vervolgens de democratie om zeep.

Rechts populisten hebben standaard reacties wanneer iemand komt met meningen die hen niet bevalt.

-dit is een linkse mening
-dit is de mening van een socialist
-dit is de mening van een liberal
en als het over het klimaat gaat, idem dito
- dit is de mening van een klimaat gekkie

En de laatste tijd is het populair bij de rechts populisten om het woord 'framen' te gebruiken.

Inhoudelijk verdedigen bij kritiek is er niet bij.
Gewoon deze populistische reacties is al bewijs genoeg dat de anderen ongelijk hebben.

Probeer anderen niet te 'framen' door ze te beschuldigen dat ze 'framen'.

Wadloper 4 september 2019 17:58

quote:
luchtschip schreef op 4 september 2019 17:51:
[...]

Rechts populisten hebben standaard reacties wanneer iemand komt met meningen die hen niet bevalt.

-dit is een linkse mening
-dit is de mening van een socialist
-dit is de mening van een liberal
en als het over het klimaat gaat, idem dito
- dit is de mening van een klimaat gekkie

En de laatste tijd is het populair bij de rechts populisten om het woord 'framen' te gebruiken.

Inhoudelijk verdedigen bij kritiek is er niet bij.
Gewoon deze populistische reacties is al bewijs genoeg dat de anderen ongelijk hebben.

Probeer anderen niet te 'framen' door ze te beschuldigen dat ze 'framen'.

Vervang links door rechts en vice versa.

rationeel 4 september 2019 18:59

quote:
Wadloper schreef op 4 september 2019 17:58:
[...]

Vervang links door rechts en vice versa.

Links is begonnen met iedere mening die ze niet beviel, racistisch te noemen, om maar eventjes een voorbeeld te geven.

luchtschip 4 september 2019 19:10

quote:
rationeel schreef op 4 september 2019 18:59:
[...]

Links is begonnen met iedere mening die ze niet beviel, racistisch te noemen, om maar eventjes een voorbeeld te geven.

Nee hoor,
alleen wanneer er sprake is van een racistische opmerking wordt dit als zodanig bestempeld.

Probeer inhoudelijk te reageren en niet de zaak af te doen met framen.

Probeer er geen goedkoop gevecht van te maken tussen links en rechts.
Dit versterkt de radicalen en gaat aan de inhoud voorbij.
Daar is niemand bij gebaat.

seance 4 september 2019 19:11

ook n leuke; kritisch op israel is een antisemiet

luchtschip 4 september 2019 19:51

NRA (National Rifle Organization)

De stad San Francisco heeft een resolutie aangenomen.
Hierin wordt de NRA bestempeld als een 'binnenlandse terroristische organisatie'.

deadstate.org/city-of-san-francisco-a...

rationeel 4 september 2019 20:27

quote:
luchtschip schreef op 4 september 2019 19:10:
[...]

Nee hoor,
alleen wanneer er sprake is van een racistische opmerking wordt dit als zodanig bestempeld.

Probeer inhoudelijk te reageren en niet de zaak af te doen met framen.

Probeer er geen goedkoop gevecht van te maken tussen links en rechts.
Dit versterkt de radicalen en gaat aan de inhoud voorbij.
Daar is niemand bij gebaat.

De wijze waarop je je uitdrukt is al framen.

luchtschip 4 september 2019 20:34

quote:
rationeel schreef op 4 september 2019 20:27:
[...]

De wijze waarop je je uitdrukt is al framen.

Het antwoord van een wijze.

Tegen zo'n volwassen geformuleerd argument kan ik niet op.

Al Kipone 4 september 2019 20:54

Naast trump had geroepen dat ook Alabama gevaar liep van Hurricane Dorian, en de National Weather Service snel tweette dat dat niet klopte, besloot trump vandaag de officiele kaart van de mogelijke 'Cone Of Destrcution' met een viltstift aan te passen aan zijn realiteit :-)

twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/11693151...

twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/status/116...

Al Kipone 4 september 2019 20:57

de man is echt de Master of his Domain :-)

Al Kipone 4 september 2019 21:11

Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §?330016(1)(G), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

rationeel 4 september 2019 21:15

Ze kunnen dat soort gebieden beter weer aan de natuur teruggeven.

luchtschip 4 september 2019 22:16

In Michigan wordt een school gebouwd. Het ontwerp is zodanig dat er beschermplekken zijn om dekking te zoeken bij een mogelijke schietpartij.
Gebogen muren en extra wanden om achter te schuilen.

twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/116...

Al Kipone 4 september 2019 22:26

President Donald Trump has stoked much controversy and chaos this summer. News coverage has swirled around everything from his racist rants against Democratic congresswomen, to him calling the Federal Reserve chairperson he appointed an “enemy” of the United States, to him once again downplaying white supremacist terror—this time after a mass murder by a gunman who explicitly cited the type of migrant “invasion” Trump has long alleged.

Other disturbing conduct by Trump has drawn less notice, however, particularly his intensifying attacks on journalists and news organizations, which he has pursued throughout the other mayhem. By now, the country is used to Trump’s “fake news” and “enemy of the people” rhetoric. The constant repetition of those messages is no accident: His overarching goal is to try to discredit the press and reduce the impact of reporting that exposes his administration’s lies, negligence, and failures and his own possible criminality.

Trump’s incessant war on the American press has grown more extreme as his presidency has gone on, and recently that pattern has further escalated. Not only has Trump continued to smear journalists with ugly hyperbole—despite clear evidence his words have provoked violent threats against Americans working in newsrooms—he is now also seeking to whip up a conspiracy theory about the Democratic Party and the news media and position the press as a scapegoat for a potential economic recession.

The president inveighed against journalists as “degenerate Trump haters,” using a label that historically has connotations of eugenics and Nazi propaganda.
In early July, the president inveighed against NBC and MSNBC journalists as “degenerate Trump haters,” using a label that historically has connotations of eugenics and Nazi propaganda. (Previously, Trump used “degenerate” to refer to ISIS terrorists, but also Washington Post reporter Carl Bernstein.) As outrage blew up later in the month over Trump’s attacks on Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and other Democratic women of color in Congress, the president blasted the “crazed” news media and claimed it had “either officially or unofficially become a part of the Radical Left Democrat Party.” He called it “a sick partnership.”

“The Mainstream Media is out of control,” Trump fumed on Twitter a few days later, specifically targeting “The Amazon Washington Post” for its coverage of his battle with Omar and others. “They constantly lie and cheat in order to get their Radical Left Democrat views out their [sic] for all to see. It has never been this bad. They have gone bonkers, & no longer care what is right or wrong. This large scale false reporting is sick!”

But the bad news in all this may be for Trump himself. While collectively these tactics represent an inherently dangerous attack on a pillar of our constitutional democracy, Trump’s multiyear campaign against the press appears to have been no more successful a project than, say, Trump Tower Moscow. One recent poll showed that although half of Trump’s base said they thought the press was “the enemy of the people,” two thirds of all respondents agreed “news media is an important part of a democracy.” Last October, an annual media survey conducted by Gallup since the 1970s found that public trust in the media rose steadily in the two years since Trump became president. And another poll last fall, from Quinnipiac, found that by a big margin American voters trusted the news media more than Trump “to tell the truth about important issues.” While those results fell starkly along partisan lines, independent and women voters sided heavily with the media.

Trump’s scorched-earth approach, in other words, may ultimately be failing.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/08/...

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