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Diegy
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butterfly schreef op 26 maart 2014 15:45:

heb mijn eerste pakket binnen, waarvoor mijn dank.
Ga je nog een pluk kopen voor het sluiten van de beurs? Omdat je zegt mijn eerste pluk.
Diegy
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dewielewaal schreef op 26 maart 2014 17:04:

is die emissie dan al zeker.
aantal jaren geleden had ik kardan nog op zes euro.
waar blijft die goeie ouwe tijd
Is niet zeker. Maar ze hebben wel een tijdje geleden daar al goedkeuring voor gevraagd om een emissie te mogen doen. Wat ik alleen wel vreemd vind is dat de koers met hoog volume afgelopen vrijdag nog op 45 cent heeft gestaan. Kan morgen alle kanten opgaan met dit aandeel. Bij emissie dik naar beneden en bij een goede outlook mede door die enorme opdracht die ze bekend hebben gemaakt kan het zomaar ook weer naar de 50 cent gaan.
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1. General
This interim condensed separate financial information is presented in accordance to rule 38(D)
of the Israeli Securities and exchange regulations (Periodic and immediate reports), 1970.
The condensed interim consolidated financial statements should be read in conjunction with the
additional financial information for the year ended December 31, 2012 and the accompanying
notes, and in conjunction to the consolidated interim financial statements for the nine and three
months ended September 30, 2013.
2. Going concern
As at September 30, 2013 the Company had, on a stand-alone basis, a working capital deficit of
€101,436 thousand, which is mainly due to the current maturities of the Company’s debentures.
In addition, in the first nine months of 2013 the Company incurred a loss attributable to the
equity holders in the amount of €106,515 thousand, which resulted in a decline in shareholders’
equity to €63,245 thousand. The Company also reported negative consolidated cash flows from
operations of €24,955 thousand in the nine months ended September 30, 2013. The cash balance
of the Company as at September 30, 2013 amounted to €15,374 thousand.
The Company’s consolidated financial statements as of September 30, 2013 have been prepared
under the assumption that the Company will continue as a going concern. This is based, among
others, on the Company’s current cash balances and the estimated cash flow that will derive
from raising loans (against pledge of free assets) and the sale of assets and/or repayment of
shareholder’s loans or dividend distribution by some of the Company’s subsidiaries
The Company has prepared a liquidity analysis for the next two years as of the balance sheet
date, which addresses the required liquidity for the Company to be able to repay the principle
and interest of debentures (series A and B) in the first quarter of February 2014 and 2015 in the
total amount of €103 million and €99 million, respectively and its other liabilities and to finance
its operations.
The repayments in 2014 are likely to be funded by existing cash balances of the Company, from
the net cash generated through the realized sale of GTC SA in November 2013 and by cash
expected from raising loans against pledge of free assets (see also in this note below) and by the
repayment of certain shareholder’s loans or dividend distribution by some of the Company’s
subsidiaries. In 2015 the repayments are likely to be funded mostly by cash to be generated
through the sale of certain assets, including the sale of investments in shares of certain
subsidiaries, by raising loans (against pledge of free assets) and / or repayment of certain
shareholder’s loans by some of the Company’s subsidiaries. In this context it should be noted
that the Company is engaged directly and through its subsidiaries in a number of negotiations -
in various stages – regarding materialization of such assets. The Company and its subsidiaries
are also conducting negotiations with respect to refinancing and debt financing. The proceeds
from the realization of these above mentioned plans will serve the Company within the
limitations of the agreement reached with debentures holders, as disclosed in Note 6 to the
consolidated interim financial statements.
Subsequent to the balance sheet date, in November 2013, a subsidiary of the Company (GTC
RE) completed the sale of its entire holding in GTC SA (see note 6B to the consolidated interim
financial statements). Following this transaction, the Company repaid loans in the amount of
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€101 million provided by a lending bank mainly against the pledge of GTC SA shares.
Regarding the amount to be repaid to debenture holders in February 2014, it should be taken
into account that an amount of €35 million was already transferred to a trust account in
November 2013 and is expected to be early repaid in December 2013.
In addition, the Company signed a conditional agreement for providing credit with the lending
bank in the amount of up to €33 million (see Note 7 to the consolidated interim financial
statements).
The realization, the price and the timing of the Company’s plans in relation to the sale of assets,
repayment of shareholder’s loans by certain subsidiaries, raising debt as well as meeting future
loan covenants, are uncertain and depend also on factors that are not wholly within the
Company’s control and on the willingness of third parties to invest and grant credit. The
Company believes that, in light of her financial resources in hand, the value of its total assets
which is considerably higher than its total liabilities and in light of the current indications
regarding the ability to realize a sale of assets and/or obtain credit in the required timeframe, it
will be able to realize its plans and that it will be able to repay its liabilities as they mature in the
foreseeable future.
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hierboven is duidelijk te lezen dat ze andere manieren hebben voor de aflossing van de bonds serie a/b ipv een emissie.
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Diegy schreef op 26 maart 2014 17:22:

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Ga je nog een pluk kopen voor het sluiten van de beurs? Omdat je zegt mijn eerste pluk.
nee,wacht verder de outlook af.
mocht deze zo zijn als ik verwacht, dan zal de koers openen
met een plus van 30/50% want dan stap ik wel vol bestens in.
Diegy
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butterfly schreef op 26 maart 2014 18:06:

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nee,wacht verder de outlook af.
mocht deze zo zijn als ik verwacht, dan zal de koers openen
met een plus van 30/50% want dan stap ik wel vol bestens in.
Als de outlook positief is dan stap ik morgen ook zeker vol in met groot volume. Dan valt er zeker genoeg geld te verdienen met kardan. Durfde het voor het sluiten vandaag niet aan om in te stappen. Wel bizar dat de koers vrijdag 35% hoger heeft gestaan dan de koers van nu.
bik
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Morgen bestens instappen,ik zou het niet doen,U betaald weer de hoofdprijs,achteraf kan het gejammer en geweeklaag dan weer opnieuw beginnen.
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Nou...ik ben benieuwd wat ze zelf morgen te vertellen hebben over de cijfers....het zal ongetwijfeld niet aan kardan liggen as usual...gewoon faillissement aanvragen en verder gaan in het water wat ik al vaker heb verteld. Maar shouky heeft slechte oren.

Cijfers zijn : K.T
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wist iemand dit al ?

Kardan N.V.
Amsterdam, March 2, 2014
Immediate Report
KARDAN LAND CHINA TAKES ON ADDITIONAL CREDIT FOR EUROPARK DALIAN
Kardan (“Kardan” or “the Company”) announces the following:
1. On February 27, 2014, Kardan Land Dalian Ltd. (the “Project Company”), an indirectly wholly owned subsidiary of the Company (through Kardan Land China Ltd. ("KLC "), entered into an agreement with two banks in China which together form a syndicate (the “Syndicate") for an additional credit (“Financing Agreement”) with respect to the Europark Dalian project (the "Project"). The additional credit (Financing Agreement) of the Project Company combined with the existing loan has become a material loan for the Company and therefore is a "reportable credit" under Israeli regulations.
2. The Project Company already had a loan of RMB 500 million (approximately EUR 60 million, the “Original Loan”) from one of the banking institutions that comprise the Syndicate before signing the Financing Agreement, which entails that the Project Company obtained additional credit to the amount of RMB 400 million (approximately EUR 48 million) from the Syndicate (hereinafter together the "Credit").
3. Based on the initial duration of the original loan, the Credit is for a period of three years and seven months, until September 2017. The Credit (i.e. RMB 900 million) will be repaid as follows: RMB 225 million during the year 2015, RMB 360 million during 2016 and RMB 315 million during 2017. The interest to be paid is an annual interest at the PBOC rate (currently 6.4%) times 115% (7.36%). Interest payments are to be made quarterly and are not linked to any index. In addition, at the beginning of each year and for the term of the loan the Project Company will pay an annual fee on the expected average loan amount in that year at a rate of 30% of the PBOC rate (1.92%).
4. To secure the Credit, KLC provided a written commitment to comply with certain sales thresholds relating to the Project. According to this commitment KLC undertakes, subject to the needs of the Project and demands of the Syndicate, to further support the Project in the amount of RMB 200 million if the Project Company does not meet a certain sales target before the end of 2014. In addition, KLC provided a guarantee to the Syndicate that the Project Company will meet the terms of the Financing Agreement. Moreover, the Project Company will pledge in favor of the Syndicate the land on which the Project is built and the Project itself.
5. The financial covenants undertaken by the Project Company are as follows: - during the period of withdrawal of the loan amounts the ratio of total debt to total assets shall be no more than 75 % and the ratio of net assets to contingent liabilities shall be no more than 30 %, the current ratio shall be at least one .
6. Events entitling the Syndicate the right to demand immediate repayment of the Credit include, among others, situations where actual construction costs materially exceed the budget as well as a significant delay in construction.
7. Europark Dalian is a combined residential and commercial project, including a shopping centre (Galleria Dalian), two SOHO buildings (Small Office Home Office), two luxury apartment buildings and another building for residential units or offices and parking areas, over a built area of approximately 327,000 sqm in the city of Dalian in China. Overall 1,130 residential units are expected to be built on an area of 109,725 sqm and the Project will have 2,311 parking spaces to be used by the buildings’ residents and visitors of the shopping centre. Completion of the Europark Dalian shopping centre is planned for Q3 2014.
Diegy
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Iemand enig idee hoe laat de cijfers komen? Zit klaar om vol in te stappen bij een goede outlook.
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nee je weet het nooit bij kardan.
meestal zie je het aan de koersbeweging en dan ben je soms al te laat
met goedkoop instappen of te laat met uitstappen.
boekje is heel dun naar beide kanten.
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Diegy schreef op 27 maart 2014 07:54:

Iemand enig idee hoe laat de cijfers komen? Zit klaar om vol in te stappen bij een goede outlook.
Voor de rest is alles goed met je ?
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sib schreef op 27 maart 2014 08:15:

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Voor de rest is alles goed met je ?
Laten we eerst naar is afwachten wat ze te zeggen hebben....

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als ze een extra lening nodig hebben voor het europark kan je er toch wel uithalen dat het ruk is ...
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Je kan ook zeggen @sib, dat ze een lening krijgen geeft aan dat er vertrouwen is van degene die het geld geeft. Glas half vol...........
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sib schreef op 27 maart 2014 08:23:

als ze een extra lening nodig hebben voor het europark kan je er toch wel uithalen dat het ruk is ...
Sorry sib een stervende zwaan gaan ze geen geld meer lenen
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Prive schreef op 27 maart 2014 08:26:

[...]Sorry sib een stervende zwaan gaan ze geen geld meer lenen
lees ff paar posts omhoog ... ze hebben de lening
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hier zijn ze
www.kardan.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=170444...

In Q4 of 2103 we reported a profit of EUR 5 million. We believe that this positive fourth quarter result is indicative of Kardan going forward; focused on improving the operating results. For the full year 2013, we have reported a loss of EUR 101 million for our equity holders however,, of which EUR 55 million is attributable to a combination of GTC SA’s results during 2013 and the accounting effects of its sale transaction. In the last years, GTC SA’s negative revaluations, on continued lackluster consumer and corporate sentiment in CEE, materially impacted Kardan NV’s results.

knallen dus....
geen emissie
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