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ta-libra schreef:

15 tegen 5
Klopt volgens mij.
Nogmaals wat bedoel je ?

The Artist
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Ach, ik ben als oude TA rot verzot op statistiek.
Hoe is jouw ervaring met dergelijke analyse's?
Peerke
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ta-libra schreef:

Ach, ik ben als oude TA rot verzot op statistiek.
Hoe is jouw ervaring met dergelijke analyse's?
Peerke

Jij lijkt eerder een kind dat een spelletje wil spelen.

The Artist

ps : zelfs na 2 keer vragen blijf je geheimzinnig doen, en verder mag je je glazen TA-bol voor jezelf houden als je dat op die manier wil doen.

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Artist schreef:
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Jij lijkt eerder een kind dat een spelletje wil spelen.
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Hmm Jammer is dat. Hmmm Dat spelletje klopt wel.(Alleen voor Artist lijkt het een kinderspelletje).
hmmm (Ik ga hem toch wat meer aan de tand voelen)

Graag lees ik eerst aan reactie's wat de diepgang van haar schrijver is.
Natuurlijk heb je enig idee wat ik bedoelde met die cijfers!
Het was een indruk van mij als eenling en derhalve niet representatief.

Mijn glazen TA-bol staat al maanden en maanden open en bloot ,als enige vooraf, haar output te publiceren.
Zie hiervoor het TA forum.

Peerke
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Dell exits low-end China consumer PC market
Monday August 16, 12:27 am ET
By Doug Young

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HONG KONG, Aug 16 (Reuters) - Dell Inc. (NasdaqNM:DELL - News), the world's largest PC maker, said on Monday it has left the low-end consumer sector in China and cut its overall growth target this year in the world's second-largest PC market due to stiff competition.

The move comes amid a recent round of price wars at the low-end of the consumer segment in China, including a campaign by market leader Lenovo Group Ltd. (HKSE:0992.HK - News) that targets buyers in smaller cities.

Sellers have cut prices to as little as 3,000 yuan ($362) per unit by offering models without Microsoft's (NasdaqNM:MSFT - News) Windows operating system and with central processing units (CPUs) from Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (NYSE:AMD - News), the low-cost rival to industry leader Intel Corp. (NasdaqNM:INTC - News).

"What we found was happening was some of our competitors decided to get really aggressive in the consumer space," Bill Amelio, president of Dell's Asia Pacific region, told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"They decided they wanted to get really aggressive in the lower price bands. So we pulled out of the lower price bands and moved up into higher price bands in the consumer space. That's where we're going to hang for a bit."

Following the shift, Dell now expects its PC shipments for China -- its fourth largest market worldwide -- to grow "closer to two times" the overall market rate, rather than the target of three times it previously set.

Dell only sells PCs equipped with Intel CPUs, an arrangement not expected to change in the near term, Amelio said. Lenovo, Hewlett Packard and China's No. 2 PC seller, Founder Group, have all recently introduced models in China powered by AMD chips.

Dell's PC and server shipments in China for the three months through July were up 24 percent year-on-year, Amelio said. That figure was down from the three months through March, when IDC said Dell's shipments were up 42 percent.

IDC has forecast that the China PC market will grow about 19 percent this year. Shipments last year reached about 13 million units, with Lenovo commanding more than a quarter of the market and Founder at about 10 percent.

Dell was China's No. 3 PC seller in the first quarter of this year, with about 7.4 percent market share. But Amelio said the company could drop to the No. 4 spot when IDC releases its data for the second quarter, due to a recent push by Tongfang Co. Ltd. (Shanghai:600100.SS - News) in the educational sector.

Other major foreign sellers in the market include Hewlett-Packard Co. (NYSE:HPQ - News), which has been aggressive in China's consumer market, and IBM (NYSE:IBM - News) at the higher end of the market.

Dell has focused most of its China PC efforts to date on the corporate market, where profit margins are typically higher.

Despite its exit from the low-end consumer PC space, Amelio stuck to his forecast from earlier this year that China, now Dell's fourth biggest market, would surpass Japan to take the No. 3 spot in the next three years.

He added that Dell, which recently entered the printer business dominated by Hewlett-Packard, has already begun selling printers in Japan and Australia, and plans to start selling them in China this quarter.

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Volgens deze analist zou het koersdoel 2.20 HKD zijn, en geeft ie een verkoopadvies, lachwekkend, hij komt van de bodem 2.00 en het hoogste na de cijfers was 2.30 HKD.

Wel met een koersdoel van 2.20 HKD, voel ik mij opperbest, het is maar een analist en zelf ziet hij een groei van 5% per jaar, ik geloof daar geen snars van, au contrair.

Ik heb verder nog nooit een analist gevolgd in zijn aan- of verkoop-adviezen.

The Artist.

ps: het geeft mij althans een veilig gevoel.
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In het Nederlands

Dell trekt zich terug van goedkope Chinese PC-markt

16 augustus 2004

Dell heeft zich teruggetrokken van de markt van goedkope PC’s in China. De grootste PC-verkoper verlaagde bovendien zijn objectieven voor de tweede grootste PC-markt in de wereld.

Als reden wordt verwezen naar de zware concurrentie die op deze markt woedt. Er woedt een prijzenslag op de Chinese markt, waarbij het voortouw wordt genomen door Lenovo.

Dell had als objectief om in China driemaal sneller te groeien dan het marktgemiddelde. Dat objectief wordt nu teruggeschroefd tot een groei die tweemaal zo groot is als het marktgemiddelde.

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Fantastisch, Lenovo wordt samen met Dell vernoemd.

Jaja, Lenovo wordt stilaan bekend in de media.

The Artist.

Ps : en Lenovo maakt het Dell moeilijk en niet andersom.
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Lenovo continues banking on core business
By Li Weitao (China Business Weekly)
Updated: 2004-08-17 14:22

China's top PC maker, Lenovo Group Ltd, will continue focusing on its core business, selling PCs, and key businesses such as handsets, to boost profitability, a company executive said last week.

Lenovo's decision, earlier this year, to shift its focus back onto its core business, and the disposal of non-core businesses as part of its restructuring programme, is paying off, said company President and Chief Executive Officer Yang Yuanqing.

Lenovo last week reported a better-than-expected, 21.1-per-cent growth, year-on-year, in net profits in its fiscal first quarter, which ended on June 30.

Its revenues rose 10 per cent.

"The return of our focus to core business has enabled our management team to concentrate our energy, and capital, (on the profitable business)," Yang said.

Lenovo will continue gradually disposing of its non-core businesses, he said.

"I think we are almost done. Disposal of our non-core businesses will help Lenovo narrow losses," Yang said.

Lenovo's operating losses at its non-core IT services and motherboard contract manufacturing business were reduced to HK$19.9 million (US$2.55 million) during the firm's fiscal first quarter.

The firm's losses had previously reached HK$31.6 million (US$4.05 million).

Lenovo last year sold a large stake in its motherboard contract manufacturing business.

Last month, it transferred its IT (information technology) services to software firm AsiaInfo Holdings Inc.

Earlier this month, Lenovo formed a joint venture with Sun Media Investment Holdings Ltd, as part of its pull-out of its Internet portal FM365.

Lenovo's lacklustre performance last year was due largely to its losses in the handset and motherboard businesses, said company Senior Vice-President Wang Xiaoyan.

In its fiscal first quarter, Lenovo posted HK$900,000 (US$115,385)in profit from its nascent mobile phone business.

Handset shipments surged 145.9 per cent, year-on-year, and sales grew 61.3 per cent.

The spike in shipments compared with a 31-per-cent, year-on-year growth, between April and June, in China's mobile phone market.

Some 15.8 million units of handsets were sold in the quarter, Beijing-based research house Analysys International said in a report last week.

Compared with the previous quarter, the handset sales volume declined 23 per cent, the first drop in history, due to intense competition.

Yang said Lenovo's independent research and development has boosted its handset business.

"Previously, we focused on OEM (original equipment manufacturing), which offers a profit margin as low as 2-3 per cent," said Yang.

"As in-house-developed phones now account for about 80 per cent of our total handsets, the gross margin for mobile phones has climbed to 25.06 per cent."

Yang dismissed the notion that Lenovo's business growth is losing steam.

Lenovo has traditionally been one of the darlings in Hong Kong's stock market, but this year, it has been Hong Kong's worst-performing blue-chip stock. Investors have been concerned the firm's rivals will erode its share of China's PC market, and that its growth will be flat.

Yang suggested those investors are short-sighted.

"Lenovo remains a steady, healthy firm, though we missed the target we set three years ago," he said.

Lenovo, he added, faces a great challenge in boosting its market share.

"(As a market leader), Lenovo needs to make a much greater effort than ever if we want to increase our market share," he said.

A report released last week by research house Gartner noted Lenovo had decrowned Hewlett-Packard (HP), during the second quarter, to regain the No 1 position in Asia-Pacific's PC market.

Lenovo held 10.5 per cent of the market during the period, compared with 9.3 per cent in the previous quarter.

HP held 10.3 per cent in the second quarter, compared with 9.7 per cent in the first quarter.

Lenovo has a 23-per-cent share, the largest, of China's PC market. Its nearest rival, Founder Technology, has a 9.3-per-cent share.

Lenovo, earlier this month, launched a much-cheaper consumer PC series, using CPUs (central processing units) made by AMD.

Analysts widely believe the low-price strategy, aimed at tapping the township and rural markets, will help Lenovo increase its market share.

Insiders said Lenovo had asked Intel, without success, to provide low-price CPUs for its new PC series.

Tapping China's township and rural markets is a natural choice, as the penetration of PCs in big cities has reached 60-70 per cent, Yang said.

"If our partner cannot give us support, we will surely choose another," Yang said.


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Mooi over de 2.3 hkd ( redelijk hoog volume ), en nu maar hopen dat de Hang Seng zijn zijwaartse beweging omzet in een blijvend stijgende trend, en idem voor Lenovo natuurlijk.

The Artist
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Eindigde op 2.40 HKD een kleine 6% de lucht ingeknalt.

Groetjes

The Artist

ps: grootste stijger van de Hang Seng.
Cézan
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Het is ingeknalD hoor. Geheugensteuntje, u zegt toch ook niet ik knalte de lucht in.

Hebt u een link van de Hang Seng?
Thx alvast.

Czn.

PS Toevallig een Prince-fan?
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Via Yahoo => vind ge hang seng, anders mijn berichten lezen van" China economische wondere werledmacht" => de nodige links en de nodige bla bla bla van mijnentwege.

I'm Prince himself.

The Artist.

Call my name.
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Cézan schreef:

Hebt u een link van de Hang Seng?
Thx alvast.

Czn.
Cézan,

misschien helpen deze links je verder :

koersen :

www.quamnet.com/fcgi-bin/qlive3.fpl?c...

samenstelling indexen :

www.hsi.com.hk/

gr

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En Pizi krijg ik geen klein proficiatje voor mijn Lenovokes.

Ge moet toch maar durven => ne gespecialiceerde analist met een verkoopadvies op Lenovo weg te blazen.

The Artist.
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Is dat uw enige belegging tot nu toe? Ik zou veel waardering voor u hebben als uw portefeuille uit louter succesverhalen bestaat.

BP
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The artist schreef:

En Pizi krijg ik geen klein proficiatje voor mijn Lenovokes.

The Artist.
Hup met de geit : een kleine proficiat en driewerf hoera voor Artist.

Ik hoop dat ik je binnen enkele weken/maanden/jaren nogmaals mag feliciteren...

gr
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bodemloze_put schreef:

Is dat uw enige belegging tot nu toe? Ik zou veel waardering voor u hebben als uw portefeuille uit louter succesverhalen bestaat.

BP
Inderdaad mijn Port. bestaat enkel uit successtory's.

Volgende week geef ik hem vrij met de %tages van de posities.

o.a

Colruyt
Lenovo
Red Chips
Puts op de nasdaq
Calls op Hang Seng
Intereffekt jap warrants
minipositie in Biotech en Gimv => samen minder dan 10%.

cash +/- 20%

The Artist
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